The Sale of Goods Act has been replaced by The Consumer Rights Act 2015. The new act is designed to, “simplify, strengthen and modernise the law, giving you clearer shopping rights”. So in theory our rights should be even better than with the old Sale of Goods Act. However, some retailers are telling customers that their rights are less if they bought an appliance after the 1st of October 2015.
This implies they believe the new act gives consumers less rights. Consumer group Which? have a form on their site that allows you to compose a faulty goods complaint message to send to a retailer. Part of the form asks if you bought your appliance before, or after October 2015.
This implies there is some difference too. However, it’s possible that the difference is only to determine which legislation to quote to the retailer. I’m currently doing more research, and will keep updating this article as I find more information.
How is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 different?
The main points in the new Consumer Rights Act are that goods must be – of Satisfactory quality – Fit for purpose & As described. We also still have up to six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland. So it sounds pretty much the same as the old Sale of Goods Act.
The main improvements are that we have additional rights early on after purchase, at below 30 days, and below 6 months (described below). However, there does seem to be at least one potentially negative difference. After 6 months have passed, the onus is now on us to prove that the appliance was faulty when it was delivered.
If your complaint is that after 3 years your appliance has broken down with a fault that has rendered it economically unrepairable, then proving that it was faulty when delivered sounds very difficult. If this was the case, then depending on how much it cost, how much it’s been used and under what conditions, you may still have a valid claim.
Under the old Sale of Goods Act we still had to prove that this was due to a fault when the product was purchased. So nothing should really have changed except potentially the retailer’s interpretations. Here is a quote from consumer group Which? on their old Sale of Goods Act page –
If your claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ends up in a small claims court, you may have to prove that the fault was present when you bought the item and not, for example, something that was the result of normal wear and tear. ”
This should still be applicable with the 2015 Consumer Rights Act. If for example you bought an appliance for £600, and after 18 months it is scrap because a fault developed unrelated to wear and tear – or misuse – and it was so expensive to repair that it is not worth repairing I would say you have a very valid claim under either the Sale of Goods Act or the Consumer Rights Act.
I would argue that a fault rendering the appliance unrepairable after only 18 months means that the part that failed was not of satisfactory quality and that should be covered by either of the consumer acts.
But what if the appliance had only cost £199? Well maybe 18 months for £199 isn’t so bad if it’s had heavy use? There are no actual rules. It’s what would be considered reasonable with all circumstances considered.
This is subjective. Likewise if an appliance was scrap after 3 years it might still reasonably be considered unacceptable on an appliance that cost £600 – but again, it’s subjective, and may need a small claims court judgement, or help from Which? or another consumer group to fight the case.
One thing is fairly sure, the retailer will almost always say there’s nothing they can do once it is out of the manufacturer’s guarantee. That is not true if you have a valid claim.
Is satisfactory quality still covered?
The consumer group Which? still list, “not of satisfactory quality” as one of the potential complaints in their template complaint letter even if you bought the appliance after October 2015.
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So, combined with the fact that we have up to 6 years to claim in the small claims court (5 in Scotland) this shows we can still claim if an appliance has not lasted a reasonable time due to unsatisfactory quality. Consider becoming a Which? member for full support and information on consumer rights.
Faulty within 30 days?
The Consumer Rights Act 2015 has now given us the right for a full refund if an appliance is faulty, unfit for purpose or not as described within the first 30 days. You must reject the product quickly though, as soon as anything is noticed.
Faulty under 6 months old?
The onus is now on the retailer to prove that a fault on a new appliance within the first 6 months is not an inherent fault. In other words unless they can prove otherwise it will be automatically assumed that your appliance had a fault when it was sold if it fails in the first 6 months.
You should be entitled to compensation or even a refund. Most retailers will still try to fob you off though. Many have a voluntary exchange policy of something like 28 days during which they will swap an appliance over out of “good will” if it fails inside the period. But after that they can be quite stubborn about it.
Any exchange policy is in addition to your rights and nothing to do with consumer rights at all. They might say they can’t exchange a faulty machine after this period, but if it is under 6 months old and has a fault you need to tell them they sold you a faulty product. That is in breach of the Consumer Rights Act.
This is of course assuming there is a genuine fault, and the issue isn’t related to poor installation, failure to use it properly, or misuse. If it’s only a minor fault though it may be more convenient to accept a repair. In fact they can insist on repairing it if they can show it’s disproportionately expensive to replace it. This little caveat can cause a lot of problems because they might argue that’s always the case. Generally though if it was a serious fault they’d probably find it better to swap it.
You should also be entitled to a refund or partial refund if a repair or replacement would cause you significant inconvenience, or if a repair would take an unreasonably long amount of time. This may well be applicable if a repairman looks at the appliance and says he needs to order parts that might take weeks to arrive and be fitted. I would especially argue the significant inconvenience issue if you had a fridge or freezer break down within 6 months and they can not repair it for weeks.
Any reasonable person is likely to argue that being without one of these vital appliances for more than a few days is very inconvenient.
You might argue the same thing if a washing machine can’t be repaired within (say) a week and you have a young baby or large family to wash for. After 6 months though things are different.
There is no 6 year guarantee
We do not have the right to free repairs up to the 5 or 6 years in the sense that any faults up to 6 years should be repaired free of charge, but I do think faults that render an appliance uneconomical to repair within the 6 years should be potentially covered (depending on full circumstances).
It’s not necessarily unreasonable if a fault develops on a washing machine or other white good within the first 5 or 6 years. Appliances can and do break down and this is accepted in the Consumer Rights Act. However, whilst it might be considered reasonable for a fault to develop on a £200 washing machine after 2 years washing for a family of 4 every day it might not be considered reasonable for a washing machine costing £600 to suffer the same – especially if only washing for a retired couple for example.
Major faults occurring within the first 5 or 6 years (which these days commonly render an appliance beyond economical repair) are a different matter though, and I believe many cases may well be covered. If an appliance breaks down and is unrepairable because of the huge cost quoted to repair it within the 5 or 6 years (especially after only 2 or 3) then I believe there is a strong case that the product has definitely not lasted a reasonable time.
You have to take into account how much it cost though, and how much use it’s had. Maybe if a washing machine only cost £200 and did 5 years of heavy washing it could be considered a reasonable lifespan, but one costing £350 and only washing for one person, or a couple, should surely have lasted longer? It’s very much open to interpretation but don’t forget the Consumer Rights Act specifically qualifies the phrase that a product should last a reasonable time by saying “reasonable” is “that (which) a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory”.
A can of worms is waiting to be opened
Until enough people start to fight for these rights and retailers and manufacturers are forced to comply most consumers may have to resort to taking a seller to the small claims court to get a decision on the true extent of their rights ( Small claims court advice ).
If this ever occurs on a large scale it will cause serious ripples. The status quo affords a lot of extra profit to retailers and manufacturers. It effectively encourages them to produce or sell poor quality products. They financially benefit from doing so through extra sales when they don’t last, extra repair business, extra sales of spare parts, and sales of extended warranties.
I’m sure many people take out an extended warranty to protect them from the fear of a major fault developing within the first 5 years, which may well be covered under the Consumer Rights Act. Related: consumers lost over £1bn last year through not using consumer rights | Money Helpline Saves Members Over a million pounds
What would happen if consumers actually received their statutory rights?

I suspect retailers were made responsible for all problems with the products they sell – even when it’s clearly not their fault – for two reasons.
Firstly because the customer only has a contract with the people they bought from – and not the people who made it. They shouldn’t have to negotiate with faceless third parties. Secondly, and I’d like to think this was intended though it’s only speculation on my part, if retailers sell rubbish they (in theory) should suffer financial and time consuming consequences and would either stop selling the rubbish or put pressure on manufacturers to improve quality.
Unfortunately retailers do sell a lot of poor quality products that don’t last anywhere near as long as they should, and of course manufacturers continue to make them. Because most consumers don’t enforce their consumer rights both manufacturers and retailers generally profit nicely from sub standard quality and have little incentive to produce or sell better quality products.
Consumers take most of the impact of poor quality goods themselves by paying out extra for extended warranties or by replacing products far too often, or by paying out to repair products within the first 6 years when the retailer may well be liable.
Most manufacturers (of appliances at least) own so many brands they don’t even fear people being so dissatisfied with a brand that they don’t buy it again because they own many of the “alternative” brands. ( Who owns who? Who really makes your appliance? )
If consumers en mass started to reject the status quo it would put the cat amongst the pigeons and cause a lot of trouble for retailers and manufacturers. Retailers in particular wouldn’t know what had hit them. In the end they’d have to stop selling rubbish because they could no longer profit from doing so. They would only be able to survive selling products that were good enough to last the “reasonable time” expected.
I wouldn’t try to say that most appliances are so rubbish that the majority of them don’t last (although some might), but there’s little doubt that an unacceptable percentage of white goods appliances do suffer expensive breakdowns well within the first 5 or 6 years and this current situation, which is bad for the environment as well as consumers, is only viable because it’s the consumer that bears most of the financial costs. If the consumer refused to accept this burden it would pass back to the retailer as the Consumer Rights Act intended and guess what – the retailers would ensure products they sold were more reliable.
Would we be better off?

This paragraph is a little tongue in cheek but believe it or not I would worry about how all this could impact the economy especially in these very tough times for retailers.
If there’s one thing I’ve learnt from the “credit crunch” it’s that our economy seems to be based almost entirely on everyone buying lots of products they do not need, and replacing them way too regularly. As soon as we enter a time when people stop buying things they don’t really need we have mass unemployment and business’s struggle. So if all products were much more reliable it could have a big impact on sales and jobs.
It would however be better environmentally and that’s pretty important at the moment. The cost of products would have to go up because you can’t have very cheap and very reliable. It’s ironic that in a way, all these shoddy goods help keep our economy going. However, the same could be said for crime and vandalism, think how many jobs would be lost if there was no crime – seriously it would be millions.
There’s no need for every product to be high quality and there’s plenty of room for a healthy variance in quality but products should still last a “reasonable” time and most people would think a white goods appliance lasting less than 5 or 6 years before a major fault renders it not worth repairing is not reasonable in most circumstances.
Fair wear and tear clause
A vital point to realise is that the Sale of Goods act and the Consumer Rights Act in the UK giving rights to compensation for between 5 and 6 years is not a guarantee or warranty. There has always been a fair wear and tear clause. It has always said that it does not mean that no breakdowns at all should occur within this period –
Goods cannot always be expected to work fault-free. They can break down through normal use. Buyers cannot, therefore, expect to hold the seller responsible for fair wear and tear. There needs to be a fault that was present on the day of sale even though it only became apparent later on, or a mis-description of the goods, or a lack of durability that suggests the goods were not of satisfactory quality to start with. ”
Research further
Last year I spent a few weeks researching consumer rights and wrote an entire section focusing on consumer rights for washing machine owners though most of the advice should be equally relevant for most appliances and even other products.
Many manufacturers give 2 year guarantees (such as Bosch) and even 5 year parts and labour guarantees such as Miele or 10 year guarantees (ISE10 and occasionally Miele). The longer the guarantee period the better. However, any guarantee given by a retailer or a manufacturer, as the famous phrase says, “is in addition to your statutory rights”.
The Consumer Rights Act is a separate right which often needs fighting for and is shrouded in mystery, confusion and denial as well as (to be fair) often over inflated expectations from consumers.
Here’s why being out of guarantee is often irrelevant
My article here gives examples of how even years out of guarantee we may still have rights – Out of guarantee doesn’t always mean you have to pay out
Related Consumer Links –
I’ve read all the consumer advice about washing machines, I’m thinking of taking them to court (This page contains a link which allows you to pursue a small claim online, without even having to leave home. The article is about washing machines but the link can be used to pursue any small claims court action)
The above link includes many links to consumer booklets and guides as well as looking at many related FAQs regarding white goods and repairs. One of the most useful guides available is written for retailers. This is a valuable guide for retailers, but as consumers it is very useful to see what retailers are being told are their responsibilities by the Department of Trade & Industry.
Five consumer laws you really ought to know. There are several references to washing machines and white goods in the article and the comments below it.
How The Consumer Rights Act leaves manufacturers with little or no consequences for making rubbish
Making only retailers responsible for poor quality products has major downsides. Everything I’ve read about consumer rights cases, and all of my personal experiences, have shown that the big retail companies usually deliberately stall us. They keep information from us and mislead us (proven by Which? research). They even keep their front line staff in the dark about our rights so that they genuinely believe we have no rights, and sound convincing when they fob us off. They realise most people will give up so they play the numbers game. They disingenuously refuse to help us when we have bought products that have been of very poor quality, have not lasted a reasonable time, or have had design faults and inherent faults.
They refuse to give refunds or replacements even when we quote our Consumer Rights or threaten to take them to the small claims court. They know this method weeds out most people. I’m not talking about when customers make unreasonable demands, which does happen, but when we have clear and obvious claims. If you have a genuine claim the chances are very remote that the retailer will admit it. Unless you make a serious fuss they have nothing to loose by stalling you until they get official small claims court papers through. Then they will likely pay up.
In my opinion the system does not work well at all. The retailers are not to blame for shoddy goods, yet they have to suffer losses of time and money sometimes years after selling a product and they presumably do not agree with it. Maybe this is why – Is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 too hard on retailers?.
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Hello, I purchased a double memory foam mattress with Maxicool cover, on 24th January 2011 online from TJHughes, it arrived 28th January, we unwrapped it 29th, discovered a hole in the cover. It was a snag that had been pulled and was incorporated in the zip. I immediately photographed the hole and telephoned & e-mailed the manufacturer (Sleepdesign who give a guarantee, what a joke) supplier (TJHughes), was told to continue to use return faulty cover, which we did.
TJHughes reimbursed the postage. The manufacturers sent a kingsize replacement (for a laugh presumably) back, which we returned, then TGHughes went into administation. Sleepdesign & TJHughes refused to speak or communicate with us any further.Consquently we still have no cover for the mattress and are still trying to get a partial refund from the credit card company.
Mr ALLEYNE: The problem is that what is reasonable is subjective. There are no acknowledged acceptable lengths of time for any product. When something only lasts 2 or 3 years it’s a little more clear cut but after that it gets less clear.
However, the Sale of Goods Act specifically qualifies the phrase that a product should last a reasonable time by saying “reasonable”, is that (which) a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory.
My experience is with white goods so I don’t know how long TV’s are generally expected to last. It could be that as a product that advances technologically at considerably greater rates than white goods a TV at 5 years is considered relatively old. Alternatively it could be they normally would be expected to last 10 years or more. As you’ve had it 5 years though you need to also bear in mind that the 5 years would be knocked off any potential compensation so for example if it was accepted they should last at least 10 years you have had half of that so would get 50% of the cost of a new one.
Hi, I purchased a Samsung LCD freeview TV in July 2006 and paid £600, which to me was and still is a lot of money. November 2011 to freeview on the TV stopped working. I bought the Tv from Freemans catalogue. I have been having a running battle with them. I just want someone to confirm what is a reasonable lenght of time for a TV to last. To me £600 for 5 years of viewing is NOT reasonable or value for money. Freemans want to offer me a partial refund of £90. Can someone just tell me what is reasonable.
Thanks
I moved into a new Barrats house in April 2008 and it was fitted with whirlpool appliances, I am already on my second washer/dryer and have had the repair man out twice to this one.
However this complaint isnt about the washer but about the oven – the oven door just spontaneously shattered like a car windscreen and we were lucky that my children weren’t injured. I have been on various forums and have read about other people this has happened to. I have contacted Whirlpool and they just sent me a general letter stating that there is no manufacturing or design fault and that it was dangerous to continue to use it and we should contact them to organise an engineer at a cost of £80 and the replacement glass at £140. I have never before had brand new white goods always had second hand from relatives so my experience of Whirlpoll isnt good.
I work in a hair salon and overheard a client complaining of the same thing – oven door shattering. I asked him if it was a Whirlpool oven and was he in a Barratt house and he said he was – he said he complained to Whirlpool who he said practically laughed at him down the phone. I contacted the Barratts show home on my estate and they said they had no complaints about the appliances fitted in the
houses. I will be taking this further with trading standards as it is not just about the door shattering but the potential injury this fault can cause. The amount of postings I have seen on the web says to me that their is definitley something faulty about the oven doors and Whirlpool/Barratt are just hoping to fob people off.
caroline jan 2012
Very interesting blog, and particularly this thread! I have a Zanussi washing machine which became extremely noisy at 2 years 7 months old – 7 months outside the warranty. I called our usual trusty engineer who diagnosed a failed drum & recommended buying a new machine.
We purchased the washer from John Lewis (for £420) so I contacted them. As has been mentioned here JL would not even consider any action without an engineer’s report but our engineer would not do this. So after paying £60, and waiting almost 2 weeks for the engineer recommended by JL to visit, his diagnosis was the same. The repair would cost £305. As a result JL have offered £160 cash or £250 towards a replacement (if purchased from them). They argue that the report does not explicitly say that the washer is “beyond economic repair” and that their offer exceeds SOGA’s requirements.
I realise that JL’s response is better than many retailers offer, and my discussions with them
have been amicable so far, but taking into account the money I’ve paid out on inspections (£70 in total) and the difference between what they’ve offered & the cost of a new machine this would leave us nearly £300 out of pocket. I also realise that as we’d had just over 2 and a half years from the machine any settlement could be reduced to take that into account.
So – after all that – I guess my question is, would you accept their offer or not? I have asked for £300 but am I being unreasonable? I have a number of major hassles (this is minor in comparison) going on at the mo so I’m concerned that these are clouding my judgement somewhat!
Thanks in advance
Dear Sir
I Bought back in 2009 an LG 50pg3000 however as of the beginning of December 2011 the television developed a serious fault that requires 2 internal boards being replaced, after being mucked about by D&G & LG, i contacted Richer Sounds who i bought it off.
After not having a TV for nearly 2 months with which they keep informing me it is being looked into with their head of Service department & someone from customer services, weeks have gone by with no communication & no sign of my TV being repaired I was wondering where do i stand as in theory this unit shouldnt have developed a fault this serious so soon(£500 was one quote), i should add however that this item was sold to me out of the window as there were no others available at the time (Which would have added to the wear & tear) & i wasnt offered any kind of discount at the time of purchase
Any help will be much appreciated
Helen: Yes, no one would be able to swap a machine over or give compensation based only on a customer saying the old one was faulty so it’s fair enough they needed something official. It’s a shame the original engineer was unable to give a written invoice stating his quote to repair the washer.
I think £250 towards a replacement if buying from them equates to half the cost of a new one (even looking at a £500 replacement cost), which I personally feel sounds reasonable. I would think most of the big national retailers wouldn’t go anywhere near that far, and would more than likely just be telling you there’s nothing they can do now as it’s out of guarantee – and treating you as if you were stupid for not taking out one of their extended warranties.
I can see your point of view counting in the £60 cost of getting an engineer report but technically that’s the fault of the original engineer who appears to have refused to give you a proper invoice with an estimate of the cost of repair on it. Maybe if he didn’t charge you it’s not so bad, but I see no logical reason why he couldn’t have obliged even if he exacted a small charge for doing so.
I think £305 to repair a 2 and a half year old washing machine that can be replaced for hardly any more is obviously beyond economic repair. The most expensive Zanussi washing machine on John Lewis’s web site is only £389 and the rest are from only £249.
If you accept that the most expensive Zanussi replacement, with 2 years guarantee and free delivery is only £389 then £250 towards it sounds very reasonable to me especially bearing in mind you haven’t needed to get involved in stressful arguments and threatening to take them to the small claims court.
Phil Gallagher: You don’t state exactly when in 2009 you bought the TV but even assuming it was in January it hasn’t even lasted 2 years? If it’s going to cost £500 to repair it’s obviously beyond economical repair and clearly hasn’t lasted a reasonable time.
If it was on display in the window you were unwise to accept it without a big discount, but you did accept it knowing it may have already used up an unknown quantity of its life. You might raise this point in your case as it appears you were additionally hard done to by not even receiving a totally brand new product – though as I say you were aware of it and accepted it at the time.
I don’t know Richer Sounds well enough to be sure of their reputation regarding these issues but I know they pride themselves on good customer service and I’ve bought things from them myself. I think they may work off relatively small margins, and any one working on small margins tends to be less generous when it comes to problems like this.
However, although there is no guarantee you would win, I believe a small claims court judge would agree that less than 2 years life from a new TV is not a reasonable lifespan under the Sale of Goods Act and would find in your favour. I would contact the shop and advise them politely that if you don’t get this resolved within the next few days (or week) you are going to lodge a claim in the small claims court.
Thanks very much for your reply, it’s really helpful to get an expert’s impartial opinion. I think on balance I’ll probably accept their offer & hope the replacement machine is more reliable!
Just an update to this: I have now been credited with £250 towards the cost of a new machine. I’ve been VERY impressed with John Lewis & wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them again. When I read about the amount of hassle people have had with other retailers I know I’m very lucky!