Consumer Rights Act gives us 6 years to claim for faulty appliances

The Sale of Goods Act has been replaced by The Consumer Rights Act 2015. The new act is designed to, “simplify, strengthen and modernise the law, giving you clearer shopping rights”. So in theory our rights should be even better than with the old Sale of Goods Act. However, some retailers are telling customers that their rights are less if they bought an appliance after the 1st of October 2015.

This implies they believe the new act gives consumers less rights. Consumer group Which? have a form on their site that allows you to compose a faulty goods complaint message to send to a retailer. Part of the form asks if you bought your appliance before, or after October 2015.

This implies there is some difference too. However, it’s possible that the difference is only to determine which legislation to quote to the retailer. I’m currently doing more research, and will keep updating this article as I find more information.


How is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 different?

The main points in the new Consumer Rights Act are that goods must be – of Satisfactory qualityFit for purpose & As described. We also still have up to six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland. So it sounds pretty much the same as the old Sale of Goods Act.

The main improvements are that we have additional rights early on after purchase, at below 30 days, and below 6 months (described below). However, there does seem to be at least one potentially negative difference. After 6 months have passed, the onus is now on us to prove that the appliance was faulty when it was delivered.

If your complaint is that after 3 years your appliance has broken down with a fault that has rendered it economically unrepairable, then proving that it was faulty when delivered sounds very difficult. If this was the case, then depending on how much it cost, how much it’s been used and under what conditions, you may still have a valid claim.


Under the old Sale of Goods Act we still had to prove that this was due to a fault when the product was purchased. So nothing should really have changed except potentially the retailer’s interpretations. Here is a quote from consumer group Which? on their old Sale of Goods Act page –

If your claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ends up in a small claims court, you may have to prove that the fault was present when you bought the item and not, for example, something that was the result of normal wear and tear.   ”


This should still be applicable with the 2015 Consumer Rights Act. If for example you bought an appliance for £600, and after 18 months it is scrap because a fault developed unrelated to wear and tear – or misuse – and it was so expensive to repair that it is not worth repairing I would say you have a very valid claim under either the Sale of Goods Act or the Consumer Rights Act.

I would argue that a fault rendering the appliance unrepairable after only 18 months means that the part that failed was not of satisfactory quality and that should be covered by either of the consumer acts.

But what if the appliance had only cost £199? Well maybe 18 months for £199 isn’t so bad if it’s had heavy use? There are no actual rules. It’s what would be considered reasonable with all circumstances considered.

This is subjective. Likewise if an appliance was scrap after 3 years it might still reasonably be considered unacceptable on an appliance that cost £600 – but again, it’s subjective, and may need a small claims court judgement, or help from Which? or another consumer group to fight the case.


One thing is fairly sure, the retailer will almost always say there’s nothing they can do once it is out of the manufacturer’s guarantee. That is not true if you have a valid claim.

Is satisfactory quality still covered?

The consumer group Which? still list, “not of satisfactory quality” as one of the potential complaints in their template complaint letter even if you bought the appliance after October 2015.

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So, combined with the fact that we have up to 6 years to claim in the small claims court (5 in Scotland) this shows we can still claim if an appliance has not lasted a reasonable time due to unsatisfactory quality. Consider becoming a Which? member for full support and information on consumer rights.


Faulty within 30 days?

The Consumer Rights Act 2015 has now given us the right for a full refund if an appliance is faulty, unfit for purpose or not as described within the first 30 days. You must reject the product quickly though, as soon as anything is noticed.

Faulty under 6 months old?

The onus is now on the retailer to prove that a fault on a new appliance within the first 6 months is not an inherent fault. In other words unless they can prove otherwise it will be automatically assumed that your appliance had a fault when it was sold if it fails in the first 6 months.

You should be entitled to compensation or even a refund. Most retailers will still try to fob you off though. Many have a voluntary exchange policy of something like 28 days during which they will swap an appliance over out of “good will” if it fails inside the period. But after that they can be quite stubborn about it.

Any exchange policy is in addition to your rights and nothing to do with consumer rights at all. They might say they can’t exchange a faulty machine after this period, but if it is under 6 months old and has a fault you need to tell them they sold you a faulty product. That is in breach of the Consumer Rights Act.


This is of course assuming there is a genuine fault, and the issue isn’t related to poor installation, failure to use it properly, or misuse. If it’s only a minor fault though it may be more convenient to accept a repair. In fact they can insist on repairing it if they can show it’s disproportionately expensive to replace it. This little caveat can cause a lot of problems because they might argue that’s always the case. Generally though if it was a serious fault they’d probably find it better to swap it.

You should also be entitled to a refund or partial refund if a repair or replacement would cause you significant inconvenience, or if a repair would take an unreasonably long amount of time. This may well be applicable if a repairman looks at the appliance and says he needs to order parts that might take weeks to arrive and be fitted. I would especially argue the significant inconvenience issue if you had a fridge or freezer break down within 6 months and they can not repair it for weeks.

Any reasonable person is likely to argue that being without one of these vital appliances for more than a few days is very inconvenient.

You might argue the same thing if a washing machine can’t be repaired within (say) a week and you have a young baby or large family to wash for. After 6 months though things are different.


There is no 6 year guarantee

We do not have the right to free repairs up to the 5 or 6 years in the sense that any faults up to 6 years should be repaired free of charge, but I do think faults that render an appliance uneconomical to repair within the 6 years should be potentially covered (depending on full circumstances).

It’s not necessarily unreasonable if a fault develops on a washing machine or other white good within the first 5 or 6 years. Appliances can and do break down and this is accepted in the Consumer Rights Act. However, whilst it might be considered reasonable for a fault to develop on a £200 washing machine after 2 years washing for a family of 4 every day it might not be considered reasonable for a washing machine costing £600 to suffer the same – especially if only washing for a retired couple for example.

Major faults occurring within the first 5 or 6 years (which these days commonly render an appliance beyond economical repair) are a different matter though, and I believe many cases may well be covered. If an appliance breaks down and is unrepairable because of the huge cost quoted to repair it within the 5 or 6 years (especially after only 2 or 3) then I believe there is a strong case that the product has definitely not lasted a reasonable time.


You have to take into account how much it cost though, and how much use it’s had. Maybe if a washing machine only cost £200 and did 5 years of heavy washing it could be considered a reasonable lifespan, but one costing £350 and only washing for one person, or a couple, should surely have lasted longer? It’s very much open to interpretation but don’t forget the Consumer Rights Act specifically qualifies the phrase that a product should last a reasonable time by saying “reasonable” is “that (which) a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory”.

A can of worms is waiting to be opened

Until enough people start to fight for these rights and retailers and manufacturers are forced to comply most consumers may have to resort to taking a seller to the small claims court to get a decision on the true extent of their rights ( Small claims court advice ).


If this ever occurs on a large scale it will cause serious ripples. The status quo affords a lot of extra profit to retailers and manufacturers. It effectively encourages them to produce or sell poor quality products. They financially benefit from doing so through extra sales when they don’t last, extra repair business, extra sales of spare parts, and sales of extended warranties.

I’m sure many people take out an extended warranty to protect them from the fear of a major fault developing within the first 5 years, which may well be covered under the Consumer Rights Act. Related: consumers lost over £1bn last year through not using consumer rights | Money Helpline Saves Members Over a million pounds


What would happen if consumers actually received their statutory rights?

Shops going out of business?

I suspect retailers were made responsible for all problems with the products they sell – even when it’s clearly not their fault – for two reasons.

Firstly because the customer only has a contract with the people they bought from – and not the people who made it. They shouldn’t have to negotiate with faceless third parties. Secondly, and I’d like to think this was intended though it’s only speculation on my part, if retailers sell rubbish they (in theory) should suffer financial and time consuming consequences and would either stop selling the rubbish or put pressure on manufacturers to improve quality.

Unfortunately retailers do sell a lot of poor quality products that don’t last anywhere near as long as they should, and of course manufacturers continue to make them. Because most consumers don’t enforce their consumer rights both manufacturers and retailers generally profit nicely from sub standard quality and have little incentive to produce or sell better quality products.


Consumers take most of the impact of poor quality goods themselves by paying out extra for extended warranties or by replacing products far too often, or by paying out to repair products within the first 6 years when the retailer may well be liable.

Most manufacturers (of appliances at least) own so many brands they don’t even fear people being so dissatisfied with a brand that they don’t buy it again because they own many of the “alternative” brands. ( Who owns who? Who really makes your appliance? )

If consumers en mass started to reject the status quo it would put the cat amongst the pigeons and cause a lot of trouble for retailers and manufacturers. Retailers in particular wouldn’t know what had hit them. In the end they’d have to stop selling rubbish because they could no longer profit from doing so. They would only be able to survive selling products that were good enough to last the “reasonable time” expected.


I wouldn’t try to say that most appliances are so rubbish that the majority of them don’t last (although some might), but there’s little doubt that an unacceptable percentage of white goods appliances do suffer expensive breakdowns well within the first 5 or 6 years and this current situation, which is bad for the environment as well as consumers, is only viable because it’s the consumer that bears most of the financial costs. If the consumer refused to accept this burden it would pass back to the retailer as the Consumer Rights Act intended and guess what – the retailers would ensure products they sold were more reliable.

Would we be better off?

Would we better or worse off?

This paragraph is a little tongue in cheek but believe it or not I would worry about how all this could impact the economy especially in these very tough times for retailers.


If there’s one thing I’ve learnt from the “credit crunch” it’s that our economy seems to be based almost entirely on everyone buying lots of products they do not need, and replacing them way too regularly. As soon as we enter a time when people stop buying things they don’t really need we have mass unemployment and business’s struggle. So if all products were much more reliable it could have a big impact on sales and jobs.

It would however be better environmentally and that’s pretty important at the moment. The cost of products would have to go up because you can’t have very cheap and very reliable. It’s ironic that in a way, all these shoddy goods help keep our economy going. However, the same could be said for crime and vandalism, think how many jobs would be lost if there was no crime – seriously it would be millions.

There’s no need for every product to be high quality and there’s plenty of room for a healthy variance in quality but products should still last a “reasonable” time and most people would think a white goods appliance lasting less than 5 or 6 years before a major fault renders it not worth repairing is not reasonable in most circumstances.


Fair wear and tear clause

A vital point to realise is that the Sale of Goods act and the Consumer Rights Act in the UK giving rights to compensation for between 5 and 6 years is not a guarantee or warranty. There has always been a fair wear and tear clause. It has always said that it does not mean that no breakdowns at all should occur within this period –

Goods cannot always be expected to work fault-free. They can break down through normal use. Buyers cannot, therefore, expect to hold the seller responsible for fair wear and tear. There needs to be a fault that was present on the day of sale even though it only became apparent later on, or a mis-description of the goods, or a lack of durability that suggests the goods were not of satisfactory quality to start with.  ”


Research further

Related articles Last year I spent a few weeks researching consumer rights and wrote an entire section focusing on consumer rights for washing machine owners though most of the advice should be equally relevant for most appliances and even other products.

Many manufacturers give 2 year guarantees (such as Bosch) and even 5 year parts and labour guarantees such as Miele or 10 year guarantees (ISE10 and occasionally Miele). The longer the guarantee period the better. However, any guarantee given by a retailer or a manufacturer, as the famous phrase says, “is in addition to your statutory rights”.

The Consumer Rights Act is a separate right which often needs fighting for and is shrouded in mystery, confusion and denial as well as (to be fair) often over inflated expectations from consumers.

Here’s why being out of guarantee is often irrelevant

My article here gives examples of how even years out of guarantee we may still have rights – Out of guarantee doesn’t always mean you have to pay out


Related Consumer Links –

I’ve read all the consumer advice about washing machines, I’m thinking of taking them to court (This page contains a link which allows you to pursue a small claim online, without even having to leave home. The article is about washing machines but the link can be used to pursue any small claims court action)

My Consumer advice section.

The above link includes many links to consumer booklets and guides as well as looking at many related FAQs regarding white goods and repairs. One of the most useful guides available is written for retailers. This is a valuable guide for retailers, but as consumers it is very useful to see what retailers are being told are their responsibilities by the Department of Trade & Industry.

Five consumer laws you really ought to know. There are several references to washing machines and white goods in the article and the comments below it.


How The Consumer Rights Act leaves manufacturers with little or no consequences for making rubbish

Making only retailers responsible for poor quality products has major downsides. Everything I’ve read about consumer rights cases, and all of my personal experiences, have shown that the big retail companies usually deliberately stall us. They keep information from us and mislead us (proven by Which? research). They even keep their front line staff in the dark about our rights so that they genuinely believe we have no rights, and sound convincing when they fob us off. They realise most people will give up so they play the numbers game. They disingenuously refuse to help us when we have bought products that have been of very poor quality, have not lasted a reasonable time, or have had design faults and inherent faults.

They refuse to give refunds or replacements even when we quote our Consumer Rights or threaten to take them to the small claims court. They know this method weeds out most people. I’m not talking about when customers make unreasonable demands, which does happen, but when we have clear and obvious claims. If you have a genuine claim the chances are very remote that the retailer will admit it. Unless you make a serious fuss they have nothing to loose by stalling you until they get official small claims court papers through. Then they will likely pay up.

In my opinion the system does not work well at all. The retailers are not to blame for shoddy goods, yet they have to suffer losses of time and money sometimes years after selling a product and they presumably do not agree with it. Maybe this is why – Is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 too hard on retailers?.

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266 thoughts on “Consumer Rights Act gives us 6 years to claim for faulty appliances”

  1. Hello Anonymous. It sounds risky supplying appliances at trade prices because as the seller you have the Sale of Goods Act to worry about, which can put a lot of burden on the seller. Things can come back to bite you for up to 6 years as described in my article. It may be possible to limit a buyer’s rights if selling at trade prices, but you’d have to take legal advice on that because the customer is not trade. So to have made little or no profit and end up with hassle and expense would really sting. Having said that you may look at the bigger picture and decide there is enough profit in the overall job.

    Regarding this current situation I would say the manufacturer is legally obliged to repair the machine under their warranty if the fault is covered by it, but if they’ve been abused they may be within their rights to refuse to deal with them.

    Under The Sale of Goods Act, because it’s failed within less than 6 months the appliance is said to have been faulty when sold unless you can prove otherwise – which you can’t do without an engineer.

    Technically the customer can claim it was sold with an inherent fault and demand a replacement. If you can show they’ve mistreated or misused it, maybe they’ve left something in a pocket and blocked the pump etc. then it’s their responsibility. If you can show that it’s unreasonable to have to replace it because it’s only a minor fault, and replacing it would be disproportionately expensive you can insist they accept a repair, but without anyone to do it you are back to square one.

    It’s a very unusual case, and one you need to seek advice on from Trading Standards. I have send an email to a contact I have at Trading Standards, and if he’s still there I will report back if he replies.

  2. “Andy Trigg says:
    April 11, 2013 at 10:42 am
    S: Yes, you need to pursue the retailer if Bosch won’t help, only they have legal responsibility under the sale of goods act.

    A high quality and expensive appliance should clearly last longer than 3 years. If a fault is relatively minor and not too expensive to repair it may not be so clear cut, but if it’s a very expensive repair, a major part, or beyond economical repair it’s totally unacceptable on an appliance costing that much. If it was a £60 microwave fair enough, but I think you have a very strong case and need to take advice from one of the consumer groups such as Citizens Advice”

    Andy,

    Thanks for your advice above. I contacted the CAB who said that my only recourse would be to take them to court if they wouldn’t play ball – although they did say that the offer made, albeit a very poor one in my view, may be deemed sufficient by the judge.

    Have you (or anyone else) had any ‘real world’ experience of this kind of case?

    Many thanks all,

    S.

  3. Unfortunately that’s how it works S. The SOGA is so ambiguous people argue over it all the time. With a law so open to interpretation the consumer is always likely to interpret it one way and the retailer and manufacturer another. The people with the best “real world experience” are the CAB but I have heard of cases where people have won cases such as when a 3 year old lap top failed and when 3 or 4 year old washing machines had major faults too.

    In your specific case, everything depends on the cost of the repair. I have to admit I assumed the magnetron was a terminal fault, in which case I would put my money on winning a case that a £750 microwave should last longer than 3 years (if it’s just been used normally and not semi commercially or worse). A quick check on Bosch magnetron prices brings up some at £150 and some at £89. These could be ones from cheaper models and yours could be more expensive though.

    I would say you need to get a quote for the cost of repair and don’t understand why you haven’t had one. I’m presuming if you know the magnetron has definitely gone they’ve inspected it so why no price? If you’ve had someone local out there’s always the chance they are wrong, but ultimately you need to know exactly what Bosch will charge to fix it before making a proper judgement.

    If they offer to fix it for say £150 (including a 50% discount on parts) then a judge may well agree that’s acceptable because the SOGA does not preclude breakdowns. It doesn’t say it shouldn’t break down after a year or two of use, it says it should last a reasonable time (in total) and be free from inherent faults.

    If they say it’s going to cost hundreds of pounds it may be different. At the end of the day the vast majority of people will not go to the effort of taking them to the small claims court despite it being pretty easy and not expensive. Therefore, many or even most retailers simply use that knowledge to bluff it out knowing 99% of people will just go away, or reluctantly accept their offers. Once you know how much it will cost to fix you can decide if it’s acceptable or not.

  4. Andy, thanks for your comments.

    I think I will ask Bosch to repair it with the caveat that if the cost exceeds a ‘reasonable’ amount I will seek redress through the court.

    It’s not so much the strict interpretation of the SOGA that bothers me here – it’s the retailer’s attitude that they don’t think that it should apply to them at all!

    Once again, thanks for your input.

    Cheers
    S.

  5. Jackie jimenez

    Could I ask some advice please? I bought a range cooker from curry’s in October 2010, Though it wasn’t delivered until the following Jan. To light the hob, you need to press and hold the knob for 15 seconds. Upon release some rings on longer stay lit, but go out. Another will light, but will go out during use. Out of 7 rings I have 3 that regularly work. I contacted the manufacturer, and they say I need to pay for them to look at it. I understand it is out of warranty, but I expected my brand new cooker to last longer than 2.5 years. Do I have any rights?

  6. Hello Jackie. It’s going to depend on what’s gone wrong exactly, and whether it’s serious or not. The Sale of Goods Act says a product should be fit for purpose, be free from inherent faults, and last a reasonable time. It doesn’t say nothing should break down though so if it’s not a serious fault it may be deemed acceptable. If on the other hand it’s a very expensive repair, you might argue that’s unacceptable if you paid a lot for it because a high quality appliance should be — high quality. This would be especially true if for any reason the appliance was so expensive to repair it wasn’t worth doing (which happens a lot these days). So unfortunately, it’s catch 22 because until they tell you what is wrong, and how much it will cost you can’t decide what to do.

  7. Re Whitegoodshelp (Andy Trigg) says:
    May 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm
    Let us know how you get on please S.

    You may remember the tale of my faulty microwave (above) and for those interested, here is an update….

    I will be polite and say the retailer (a large one based in the East Midlands) was slightly less than helpful. Bosch, though, were much better and agreed to discount all parts by 50%. The total cost of the repair was estimated at being £120. Not great but nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be.

    The engineer was only here 20 minutes but it was sufficient to derive an invoice, payable to him, for an additional £140! He claimed the magnetron had ‘blown up the inverter’ and so he had had to replace that too.

    I paid his bill but asked whether I could keep the faulty inverter. He clearly didn’t like this idea and made excuses about it being dangerous and had to be disposed of in a certain way. Anyway, I insisted, and I’ve now got a perfectly pristine looking inverter sat in my kitchen. It may well be ‘blown up’ but it certainly doesn’t look it and an electrician friend of mine will be testing it this weekend.

    Anyway, I digress. The really annoying conclusion is that not only am I £260 poorer – but 10 seconds after the engineer had disappeared, the exact same fault returned :(

    Watch this space…..

    S.

  8. Many thanks for the update S, it’s so much more useful when people update on events. If the cost of repair is £260 on a product costing £750 after 3 years that’s very disappointing. It’s roughly 35% of the purchasing price. If it was a car costing £9,000 and needed £3,150 spending on it at 3 years it’d be a hell of a shock, but if it was a radio costing £50 which needed £17.50 spending on it, it wouldn’t seem so bad. Everything’s relative and things can seem different according to purchase costs. Your case seems a little in the middle. I don’t know if they have any formulas to work on at the small claims court or not but if it broke down straight after I would think you have a strong claim to reject the repair go back to the retailer saying it hasn’t lasted a reasonable time for what it cost and Bosch haven’t repaired it properly.

  9. I am fed up of paying for the extended warranty with DomGen for a washing machine. I worked out if i could buy a new Miele
    it would pay for itself. They only generally offer 5 year guarantees although the talk around the net is they can last 15-20 years. If you are paying around £900-1000 and after 7 years you need a repair what recourse would you have from the retailer ? They do sell extended 10 year guaranteeds for £149 but if you are having to pay £1000 in the first place why pay more that defeats the whole object of buying a Miele. Surely a washing machine costing £1000 should last 10 years that is a reasonable time (IMO) so that would be £100 per year trouble free washing. Alternatively i could buy a cheap £200 machine and get 2 years guarantee and then if it breaks buy a new one ! These companies really do get you by the short and curlies !

    I look forward to your reply

    Louis

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