Why can’t modern washing machines rinse properly?

Soapy-water My attention was drawn to rinsing efficiency after noticing that out of dozens of washing machines reviewed by Which? most of them had a poor rating for rinsing. Even those singled out as Best Buys were “poor” at rinsing. Believe it or not, at least one Best Buy was “very poor”. I found that pretty shocking.

From studying the figures it is clear that if “good”, or “very good” rinsing was one of the prerequisites for a Best Buy there would be no Best Buy washing machines or washer dryers at all – not a single one. It appears that Which? have decided to allow the poor rinsing results to be a caveat instead of a best buy killer. Please note however that several Which? best buys are “satisfactory” at rinsing which is something at least.


Out of 125 washing machines and washer dryers tested, a remarkable 75 of them (60%) were rated either “poor” or “very poor” at rinsing with only 3 getting the rating we should expect for all washing machines which is “good”.

The rest were a mere “satisfactory”. To summarise, just less than 3 % of the 125 washers & dryers are “good” at rinsing according to Which?

Since writing this article I’ve discovered Which? no longer give the majority of washing machines 1 or 2 star ratings for rinsing ability, and the majority appear to get 3 or 4 stars. Which? tell me they’ve readjusted their rinse marks to more accurately reflect the degrees of abilities between even poor rinsing machines. However, they are still critical of many of their rinsing abilities in the comments and the pros and cons.


What does this mean?

Well for a start it doesn’t mean that we can settle for one of the three washing machines that are “good” at rinsing because they unfortunately let themselves down in other areas such as with “noisy spin, and poor brand reliability”. However, if you really need a washing machine that rinses better than any other – maybe because of allergies – then at least Which? have identified three candidates out of the 125 they’ve tested so far.

I have to advise though that you should go for them only if good rinsing is your most important requirement and are prepared to accept big compromises elsewhere – as long as it rinses well.

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Why aren’t they rinsing properly and does it really matter?

Surely all washing machines should rinse well? It’s surely quite simple, you just use enough water to rinse them properly. It’s astounding that we have reached the situation where the majority of washing machines and washer dryers on sale in the UK are apparently poor at rinsing.

Save-water This has probably come about because people have been focussing on other aspects, which has left rinsing as a low priority. Two explanations spring to mind. Firstly, the focus on using less and less water is clearly impacting on our washing machine’s ability to rinse effectively. Whereas modern detergents can facilitate efficient and effective washing results at lower temperatures and with less water, no such product is currently allowing effective rinsing with much less water.


Good rinsing needs plenty of water which is in direct opposition to the current environmental concerns and clamour to be the washing machine using the least amount of water.

Eco Labels
Eco Labels

The second explanation I can think of is that the eco-labelling system which awards ratings for energy efficiency, spin efficiency and wash efficiency do not appear to take into account rinse efficiency.

As such, manufacturers aren’t being judged on how well their washing machines rinse, only on how well they wash and how well they extract water on spin. I’m speculating at this stage, but I can’t see how so many washing machines could be awarded an “A” wash efficiency rating if the tests took into account how well the clothes were rinsed. Presumably, as long as all stains are removed and laundry looks “clean” no one bothers about how much soap detergent residue is left.


It might be a good idea to create a fourth category, “rinse efficiency” on the eco labels, or at least include the rinse efficiency as part of the wash efficiency test.

Allergies Ultimately if customers don’t notice an issue then it could be argued that it doesn’t really matter.

Maybe it doesn’t for most people, but it surely does to anyone sensitive to wash detergents and with allergies and a lot of people are. There were 581 comments added on this topic from such people before I had to close comments to prevent it being endless.

The current situation is that to anyone keen to buy a washing machine with good rinsing I have no washing machine to recommend because none of the companies producing the best, and the most reliable washing machines currently supply one that rinses above average according to Which? although this could easily change and you would need to check out the latest to be sure.


Are Which? wrong?

Are Which? being too critical? Are Which? applying too stringent a rinse test? I must admit I’ve not had many complaints from people saying their washing machine isn’t rinsing properly and my own Miele washing machine, which although a Which? Best Buy, didn’t receive a “good” rating for rinsing yet it appears to rinse perfectly well as far as we can see.

In fact I remarked to my wife that my clothes don’t smell of detergent like they used to in the old washing machine and deduced that it rinsed much better. However, neither of us have any reactions to washing machine detergent. The thing about Which? is that they are totally independent.

They work only for their subscribers interests and are actually a registered charity. They don’t make any money directly by recommending any product (even though they could) because they want to be seen as 100% unbiased. They are highly respected and I expect they test products fairly. However, my understanding is that the do charge for companies to display their “Best Buy” logo!

I suspect Which? are right and that modern washing machines don’t generally rinse very well because of the reasons I speculate about above. Whether it matters or whether it will change depends on whether enough of the public are bothered, or even notice. The 581 comments added to this article below show that many people do find this a big issue.


Which? research

NOTE: Which? do rate some washing machines as satisfactory for rinsing and even a couple are rated as good, although unfortunately the few rated good (so far) are not so good on reliability.

Which? are constantly reviewing washing machines so if rinsing is particularly important to you it makes sense to become a member and see all the buying advice. I can’t print their advice for copyright reasons.

Here’s how they describe their reviews –

We are of course well known for our traditional product testing. And when we test something like the proverbial washing machine, we will ask the laboratory not only to measure how clean the clothes get, but how much water and energy is used? How easy is it to work out the programmes? What is the machine like on specialist cycles? How long does it take? All these things feed into our best buy criteria.

We will devise the testing schedule by looking at things from the ordinary user’s point of view: and if standard industry methods are not good enough we will devise our own methods   ”

Causes of poor rinsing

There are some common causes of poor rinsing even in washing machines that do rinse well that it might be useful to point out. Anyone experiencing poor rinsing problems where washing comes out with detergent residues or white powder streaks should read this – White streaks or residual washing powder after washing

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546 thoughts on “Why can’t modern washing machines rinse properly?”

  1. Thanks Simon. I’ve never heard of that, can you report which exact wording they use please? My understanding has always been that the enzymes are killed off at high temperatures.

  2. Hi Simon,

    Enzymes denature at 53 deg C exactly. So using a biological detergent for a maintenance wash is acceptable. Their wording means the detergent is suitable for all temperatures not the enzymes are active up to 95 deg C, this is one of the reasons why modern machines are cold fill only.

    Oliver.

  3. Hi Andy,

    I disagree with using non-bio for maintenance washes. The enzymes may only be active for 15 minutes or so, but this is long enough for them to assist in breaking down the soil in the machine, then the bleach, surfactants and pure heat can take it from there. Enzymes are very quick to react, they are not a one shot job either, they attack one part of the soil and when broken down move on to another part, this all happens in a very short space of time.

    Although I do see what you mean, 40 deg C is the ideal, the New Wave machines used to have an “Enzyme Plateau”, meaning it heated to 40 deg C and washed for 8 minutes, then carried on heating up to the chosen temperature and washed as normal. The Bosch does similar if “Intensive” is selected, it fills to low level, heats to 40 4 looks, deg C, when reached fills to medium level and heats up to the chosen temperature, so maximum effect from the bio powder.

    Also the nearer to 53 deg C the water gets the faster the enzymes work, until breaking point so a fast reaction becomes even faster. It just happens they seem to work at optimum performance, at exactly 37 deg in C, the human body temperature as we are full of enzymes too.

    The ideal maintenance wash would have a higher water level anyway, it is a good idea to top the water level up to the bottom of the door glass so it can clean where it normally wouldn’t, especially with today’s low water levels, thus taking longer to heat a larger mass of water giving the enzymes more time to clean the machine.

    The best way to clean a washing machine is with a product called “Affresh” which breaks up the muck, but these tablets work better the slower they are heated up so also benefit from a higher water level, starting from cold, as would the bio powder.

    All the best,

    Oliver.

  4. Does anyone on here know anything about where the Optical brightener Distryl Biphenyl derivative comes from? Have asked numerous detergent manufacturers but as usual they never reply. Simon

  5. Hi Oliver. I’m basing my advice about using non biological detergents for maintenance washes on knowledge that they are designed for hot washes, and presumably keep working right up to 90 degrees, whereas biological detergents are designed for cool washes.

    It just seems more logical to use them but a maintenance wash with biological detergent is likely to be effective too. I couldn’t say for certain if one is definitely better than the other. The most important factors are the temperature and the need for the detergent to contain bleaching agents.

  6. Hi Simon,

    To get information like that you would need to see the detergent manufactureres industrial chemist! I genuinley don’t know. I suspect the detergent companies haven’t responded is because they don’t know or cannot be bothered to find out, the latter probably being the case!

    The best I can say is it will be man-made, and once in your clothing ain’t coming out!!

    All the best,

    Oliver.

  7. Hi Andy,

    I wasn’t having a go, just seems more logical in my eyes to use bio for the extra kick in cleaning the machine, especially if it hasn’t been done for a long time. This is one of the reasons I recommend topping up the water level to about 1″ up the glass, with cold water only.

    When the enzymes denature the detergent then contains exactly the same ingredients as its non-bio variant, and as they cost the same it would probably be best to use bio.

    All the best,

    Oliver.

  8. CONFIRMED – after numerous washes – warm rinsing with a temperature of AT LEAST 40C rids the cotton fibres of the soapsuds much better than cold water or lukewarm water.

    After doing a normal cottons cycle, the “quickwash”, “rapid”, “superquick” or whatever each manufacturer calls it, at 40C without detergent, gives you a warm rinse followed by the ordinary rinses performed during the quick cycle. Then the final spin. If you can add jugfuls of warm water from the hot tap into the washing machine via the soap drawer, this extra quantity of water works a treat. If you can’t add extra water, at least the clothes are getting rinsed better compared to just pressing “extra rinse” or doing nothing.

    Having done this re-rinsing with lots of warm water and then adding un-perfumed fabric conditioner, my clothes are coming out clean without *any* smell of detergent or perfumes, not even a slight smell! The clothes feel really soft, softer now than they’ve ever been.

    This works for me and I’m sure it will work for everyone else who wants their laundry rinsed properly. I never knew warm water could make such an enormous difference to rinsing until I discovered this blog. I’m very pleased. :)

  9. WM User: delighted to hear about your success story ! It is absolutely scientifically impossible to rinse soap, detergent, surfactant, whatever you want to call it – it’s all the same – out of laundry, particularly heavy cotton items such as jeans and towels – without the use of warm or hot water. We are being conned by washing machine manufacturers who say otherwise.

    Your tests – as mine – have proved this to be so. Well done you.

  10. WMUSER & NiKKI: I don’t say that warm water rinsing isn’t better on some level, but I have said I’m not convinced it’s so much better that it’s worth the extra costs in using warm water for rinsing for most people – though I’m sure it would be for people like yourselves. And washing machine manufacturers throughout history also appear to not think it’s worth it or it would have developed long before now and taken off big style. Competition is so fierce that if rinsing in warm water could be shown to be substantially better it’s hard to believe no manufacturer has got ahead of their competition by doing it.

    I just don’t see any logic in saying that rinsing in cold water is impossible and cannot work. That would mean washing machines throughout history have never rinsed adequately yet the vast majority of people are perfectly happy with their laundry rinsed in cold water.

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