Consumer Rights Act gives us 6 years to claim for faulty appliances

The Sale of Goods Act has been replaced by The Consumer Rights Act 2015. The new act is designed to, “simplify, strengthen and modernise the law, giving you clearer shopping rights”. So in theory our rights should be even better than with the old Sale of Goods Act. However, some retailers are telling customers that their rights are less if they bought an appliance after the 1st of October 2015.

This implies they believe the new act gives consumers less rights. Consumer group Which? have a form on their site that allows you to compose a faulty goods complaint message to send to a retailer. Part of the form asks if you bought your appliance before, or after October 2015.

This implies there is some difference too. However, it’s possible that the difference is only to determine which legislation to quote to the retailer. I’m currently doing more research, and will keep updating this article as I find more information.


How is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 different?

The main points in the new Consumer Rights Act are that goods must be – of Satisfactory qualityFit for purpose & As described. We also still have up to six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland. So it sounds pretty much the same as the old Sale of Goods Act.

The main improvements are that we have additional rights early on after purchase, at below 30 days, and below 6 months (described below). However, there does seem to be at least one potentially negative difference. After 6 months have passed, the onus is now on us to prove that the appliance was faulty when it was delivered.

If your complaint is that after 3 years your appliance has broken down with a fault that has rendered it economically unrepairable, then proving that it was faulty when delivered sounds very difficult. If this was the case, then depending on how much it cost, how much it’s been used and under what conditions, you may still have a valid claim.


Under the old Sale of Goods Act we still had to prove that this was due to a fault when the product was purchased. So nothing should really have changed except potentially the retailer’s interpretations. Here is a quote from consumer group Which? on their old Sale of Goods Act page –

If your claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ends up in a small claims court, you may have to prove that the fault was present when you bought the item and not, for example, something that was the result of normal wear and tear.   ”


This should still be applicable with the 2015 Consumer Rights Act. If for example you bought an appliance for £600, and after 18 months it is scrap because a fault developed unrelated to wear and tear – or misuse – and it was so expensive to repair that it is not worth repairing I would say you have a very valid claim under either the Sale of Goods Act or the Consumer Rights Act.

I would argue that a fault rendering the appliance unrepairable after only 18 months means that the part that failed was not of satisfactory quality and that should be covered by either of the consumer acts.

But what if the appliance had only cost £199? Well maybe 18 months for £199 isn’t so bad if it’s had heavy use? There are no actual rules. It’s what would be considered reasonable with all circumstances considered.

This is subjective. Likewise if an appliance was scrap after 3 years it might still reasonably be considered unacceptable on an appliance that cost £600 – but again, it’s subjective, and may need a small claims court judgement, or help from Which? or another consumer group to fight the case.


One thing is fairly sure, the retailer will almost always say there’s nothing they can do once it is out of the manufacturer’s guarantee. That is not true if you have a valid claim.

Is satisfactory quality still covered?

The consumer group Which? still list, “not of satisfactory quality” as one of the potential complaints in their template complaint letter even if you bought the appliance after October 2015.

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So, combined with the fact that we have up to 6 years to claim in the small claims court (5 in Scotland) this shows we can still claim if an appliance has not lasted a reasonable time due to unsatisfactory quality. Consider becoming a Which? member for full support and information on consumer rights.


Faulty within 30 days?

The Consumer Rights Act 2015 has now given us the right for a full refund if an appliance is faulty, unfit for purpose or not as described within the first 30 days. You must reject the product quickly though, as soon as anything is noticed.

Faulty under 6 months old?

The onus is now on the retailer to prove that a fault on a new appliance within the first 6 months is not an inherent fault. In other words unless they can prove otherwise it will be automatically assumed that your appliance had a fault when it was sold if it fails in the first 6 months.

You should be entitled to compensation or even a refund. Most retailers will still try to fob you off though. Many have a voluntary exchange policy of something like 28 days during which they will swap an appliance over out of “good will” if it fails inside the period. But after that they can be quite stubborn about it.

Any exchange policy is in addition to your rights and nothing to do with consumer rights at all. They might say they can’t exchange a faulty machine after this period, but if it is under 6 months old and has a fault you need to tell them they sold you a faulty product. That is in breach of the Consumer Rights Act.


This is of course assuming there is a genuine fault, and the issue isn’t related to poor installation, failure to use it properly, or misuse. If it’s only a minor fault though it may be more convenient to accept a repair. In fact they can insist on repairing it if they can show it’s disproportionately expensive to replace it. This little caveat can cause a lot of problems because they might argue that’s always the case. Generally though if it was a serious fault they’d probably find it better to swap it.

You should also be entitled to a refund or partial refund if a repair or replacement would cause you significant inconvenience, or if a repair would take an unreasonably long amount of time. This may well be applicable if a repairman looks at the appliance and says he needs to order parts that might take weeks to arrive and be fitted. I would especially argue the significant inconvenience issue if you had a fridge or freezer break down within 6 months and they can not repair it for weeks.

Any reasonable person is likely to argue that being without one of these vital appliances for more than a few days is very inconvenient.

You might argue the same thing if a washing machine can’t be repaired within (say) a week and you have a young baby or large family to wash for. After 6 months though things are different.


There is no 6 year guarantee

We do not have the right to free repairs up to the 5 or 6 years in the sense that any faults up to 6 years should be repaired free of charge, but I do think faults that render an appliance uneconomical to repair within the 6 years should be potentially covered (depending on full circumstances).

It’s not necessarily unreasonable if a fault develops on a washing machine or other white good within the first 5 or 6 years. Appliances can and do break down and this is accepted in the Consumer Rights Act. However, whilst it might be considered reasonable for a fault to develop on a £200 washing machine after 2 years washing for a family of 4 every day it might not be considered reasonable for a washing machine costing £600 to suffer the same – especially if only washing for a retired couple for example.

Major faults occurring within the first 5 or 6 years (which these days commonly render an appliance beyond economical repair) are a different matter though, and I believe many cases may well be covered. If an appliance breaks down and is unrepairable because of the huge cost quoted to repair it within the 5 or 6 years (especially after only 2 or 3) then I believe there is a strong case that the product has definitely not lasted a reasonable time.


You have to take into account how much it cost though, and how much use it’s had. Maybe if a washing machine only cost £200 and did 5 years of heavy washing it could be considered a reasonable lifespan, but one costing £350 and only washing for one person, or a couple, should surely have lasted longer? It’s very much open to interpretation but don’t forget the Consumer Rights Act specifically qualifies the phrase that a product should last a reasonable time by saying “reasonable” is “that (which) a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory”.

A can of worms is waiting to be opened

Until enough people start to fight for these rights and retailers and manufacturers are forced to comply most consumers may have to resort to taking a seller to the small claims court to get a decision on the true extent of their rights ( Small claims court advice ).


If this ever occurs on a large scale it will cause serious ripples. The status quo affords a lot of extra profit to retailers and manufacturers. It effectively encourages them to produce or sell poor quality products. They financially benefit from doing so through extra sales when they don’t last, extra repair business, extra sales of spare parts, and sales of extended warranties.

I’m sure many people take out an extended warranty to protect them from the fear of a major fault developing within the first 5 years, which may well be covered under the Consumer Rights Act. Related: consumers lost over £1bn last year through not using consumer rights | Money Helpline Saves Members Over a million pounds


What would happen if consumers actually received their statutory rights?

Shops going out of business?

I suspect retailers were made responsible for all problems with the products they sell – even when it’s clearly not their fault – for two reasons.

Firstly because the customer only has a contract with the people they bought from – and not the people who made it. They shouldn’t have to negotiate with faceless third parties. Secondly, and I’d like to think this was intended though it’s only speculation on my part, if retailers sell rubbish they (in theory) should suffer financial and time consuming consequences and would either stop selling the rubbish or put pressure on manufacturers to improve quality.

Unfortunately retailers do sell a lot of poor quality products that don’t last anywhere near as long as they should, and of course manufacturers continue to make them. Because most consumers don’t enforce their consumer rights both manufacturers and retailers generally profit nicely from sub standard quality and have little incentive to produce or sell better quality products.


Consumers take most of the impact of poor quality goods themselves by paying out extra for extended warranties or by replacing products far too often, or by paying out to repair products within the first 6 years when the retailer may well be liable.

Most manufacturers (of appliances at least) own so many brands they don’t even fear people being so dissatisfied with a brand that they don’t buy it again because they own many of the “alternative” brands. ( Who owns who? Who really makes your appliance? )

If consumers en mass started to reject the status quo it would put the cat amongst the pigeons and cause a lot of trouble for retailers and manufacturers. Retailers in particular wouldn’t know what had hit them. In the end they’d have to stop selling rubbish because they could no longer profit from doing so. They would only be able to survive selling products that were good enough to last the “reasonable time” expected.


I wouldn’t try to say that most appliances are so rubbish that the majority of them don’t last (although some might), but there’s little doubt that an unacceptable percentage of white goods appliances do suffer expensive breakdowns well within the first 5 or 6 years and this current situation, which is bad for the environment as well as consumers, is only viable because it’s the consumer that bears most of the financial costs. If the consumer refused to accept this burden it would pass back to the retailer as the Consumer Rights Act intended and guess what – the retailers would ensure products they sold were more reliable.

Would we be better off?

Would we better or worse off?

This paragraph is a little tongue in cheek but believe it or not I would worry about how all this could impact the economy especially in these very tough times for retailers.


If there’s one thing I’ve learnt from the “credit crunch” it’s that our economy seems to be based almost entirely on everyone buying lots of products they do not need, and replacing them way too regularly. As soon as we enter a time when people stop buying things they don’t really need we have mass unemployment and business’s struggle. So if all products were much more reliable it could have a big impact on sales and jobs.

It would however be better environmentally and that’s pretty important at the moment. The cost of products would have to go up because you can’t have very cheap and very reliable. It’s ironic that in a way, all these shoddy goods help keep our economy going. However, the same could be said for crime and vandalism, think how many jobs would be lost if there was no crime – seriously it would be millions.

There’s no need for every product to be high quality and there’s plenty of room for a healthy variance in quality but products should still last a “reasonable” time and most people would think a white goods appliance lasting less than 5 or 6 years before a major fault renders it not worth repairing is not reasonable in most circumstances.


Fair wear and tear clause

A vital point to realise is that the Sale of Goods act and the Consumer Rights Act in the UK giving rights to compensation for between 5 and 6 years is not a guarantee or warranty. There has always been a fair wear and tear clause. It has always said that it does not mean that no breakdowns at all should occur within this period –

Goods cannot always be expected to work fault-free. They can break down through normal use. Buyers cannot, therefore, expect to hold the seller responsible for fair wear and tear. There needs to be a fault that was present on the day of sale even though it only became apparent later on, or a mis-description of the goods, or a lack of durability that suggests the goods were not of satisfactory quality to start with.  ”


Research further

Related articles Last year I spent a few weeks researching consumer rights and wrote an entire section focusing on consumer rights for washing machine owners though most of the advice should be equally relevant for most appliances and even other products.

Many manufacturers give 2 year guarantees (such as Bosch) and even 5 year parts and labour guarantees such as Miele or 10 year guarantees (ISE10 and occasionally Miele). The longer the guarantee period the better. However, any guarantee given by a retailer or a manufacturer, as the famous phrase says, “is in addition to your statutory rights”.

The Consumer Rights Act is a separate right which often needs fighting for and is shrouded in mystery, confusion and denial as well as (to be fair) often over inflated expectations from consumers.

Here’s why being out of guarantee is often irrelevant

My article here gives examples of how even years out of guarantee we may still have rights – Out of guarantee doesn’t always mean you have to pay out


Related Consumer Links –

I’ve read all the consumer advice about washing machines, I’m thinking of taking them to court (This page contains a link which allows you to pursue a small claim online, without even having to leave home. The article is about washing machines but the link can be used to pursue any small claims court action)

My Consumer advice section.

The above link includes many links to consumer booklets and guides as well as looking at many related FAQs regarding white goods and repairs. One of the most useful guides available is written for retailers. This is a valuable guide for retailers, but as consumers it is very useful to see what retailers are being told are their responsibilities by the Department of Trade & Industry.

Five consumer laws you really ought to know. There are several references to washing machines and white goods in the article and the comments below it.


How The Consumer Rights Act leaves manufacturers with little or no consequences for making rubbish

Making only retailers responsible for poor quality products has major downsides. Everything I’ve read about consumer rights cases, and all of my personal experiences, have shown that the big retail companies usually deliberately stall us. They keep information from us and mislead us (proven by Which? research). They even keep their front line staff in the dark about our rights so that they genuinely believe we have no rights, and sound convincing when they fob us off. They realise most people will give up so they play the numbers game. They disingenuously refuse to help us when we have bought products that have been of very poor quality, have not lasted a reasonable time, or have had design faults and inherent faults.

They refuse to give refunds or replacements even when we quote our Consumer Rights or threaten to take them to the small claims court. They know this method weeds out most people. I’m not talking about when customers make unreasonable demands, which does happen, but when we have clear and obvious claims. If you have a genuine claim the chances are very remote that the retailer will admit it. Unless you make a serious fuss they have nothing to loose by stalling you until they get official small claims court papers through. Then they will likely pay up.

In my opinion the system does not work well at all. The retailers are not to blame for shoddy goods, yet they have to suffer losses of time and money sometimes years after selling a product and they presumably do not agree with it. Maybe this is why – Is the Consumer Rights Act 2015 too hard on retailers?.

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266 thoughts on “Consumer Rights Act gives us 6 years to claim for faulty appliances”

  1. Hello.
    I am looking for some advice. I bought a Bosch Frost Free Fridge Freezer in November 2008 it came with the 2 year guarantee. The appliance overheated at the weekend, freezer totally defrosed and fridge overheated, have had to throw everything out and turn off the appliance. When I rang Bosch they said my guarantee had ran out and I could get it fixed if I took out a repair plan. I told them that this was not acceptable and they said sorry you will have to take out a repair plan.
    Any suggestions.

    Frances

  2. Sorry for not replying sooner Frances: It’s probably too late now ( as you are likely to have had to do something quite quickly with a failed fridge freezer). Whether you have a claim depends very much on what the fault is, and unfortunately this means you have to get an engineer to look at it to find out. No one is going to do anything until they know exactly what has gone wrong. It could turn out to be something fairly minor which you are happy to have fixed.

    If it’s a major fault that requires a lot of money to fix or even isn’t worth repairing that’s when your statutory consumer rights should kick in and you would need to take it up with the retailer if you think it hasn’t lasted a reasonable time.

    By lasting a reasonable time I believe they mean if it’s completely failed and needs replacing at an unreasonably short time or suffered a serious fault in an unreasonably short time rather than it broke down as some failures can be minor or even related to how they’ve been used.

  3. This web page has been a very useful and interesting
    What I would like to know is
    Do you need the original receipt of purchase? Or can you use a copy?
    For example if I keep all of my receipts I would be using them as a sofa
    Could I in fact make a copy and keep it on my pc?

    Also I have sky equipment and with this I have a warinty cover that I pay £5 a month for ( to a third party provider ) they have said I needed this because its out of the 12 month manufacturers warinty. If I’m paying B Sky B for the use of there product and after the 2 years manufactures warinty. Can I get a re placement from sky under the sales of good act? And could I also claim my money back from the third part warinty provider because I didn’t need there service anyway?

  4. Trevor: You need proof of purchase, which could be a bank or credit card statement or a copy of the receipt. The copy would have verifiable information on it.

    The sale of goods act only makes the original seller of products liable where liability can be shown. A third party warranty is a separate service and would also be covered under the sale of goods act under the providing services section in that it must be fit for its purpose. The company you bought it from would be liable if you could show it wasn’t fit for its purpose.

  5. Hi there,

    Very informative website…which sadly is very relevant to us now.

    Our problem is the bearings in our washing machine have gone and the entire drum unit requires replacing. The service people have quoted £300 (including parts and labour and VAT) to fix the issue.

    This is where our problems begin. We initially had a 2 year warranty that came with the machine and the failure happened 2 years 4 months after we moved in (meaning the 2 year warranty period was over). Whirlpool pointed us back to Barratt Homes (as the washing machine was provided with the house when we bought it in Dec 2008). However, not totally unexpected, Barratts Homes couldnt care less, they just said the warranty period was over so too bad!

    I mentioned to them the sales of goods act and that we believe we are covered for such a major machanical fault that has rendered the machine unusable but they couldnt care less! When I spoke to the customer service person I asked her who she had sought advice from on Barratt homes legal responsibilities, she said it was her own opinion that we werent covered! Her letter in reply to our complaint also specifically did NOT make mention of the Sales of Goods Act either!

    I have already told them that as the machine came with a four bed family home that it wouldnt be unreasonable to expect the washing machine to be fit for purpose (ie. able to take the pressures of washing for a modern nuclear family of 2.4 people (the .4 is the cat:). Ive also told them that it wouldnt not be unreasonable to expect the washing machine to last longer than 2.4 years before such a major catastrophic fault had occured. OK, I could accept this happening towards the end of year 4 or happening in year five…but not 2 years and 4 months after taking ownership of the machine!

    So, any idea what our next step would be? If they continue to ignore our pleadings do I just get the thing fixed and then take them to the small claims court to recover our costs? Im off the mind to ask the judge to refund us the £250k we paid for the house…after all, the washing machine came with a free house! :)

    Regards

    Mr Bob Dobalina

  6. Got a reply from barratts just before 6pm.

    Some guy called Chris Carty advised the following after I asked fir thus issue to be escalated;

    “I have received a copy of your e-mail of today’s date regarding the washing machine and dishwasher at your home. I confirm I have consulted our Head of Legal Services. He advises that whilst it is correct that the time limit for bringing a claim under the Sale of Goods Act is 6 years from purchase this does not mean that all goods must last six years. We are satisfied that the goods supplied were of sufficient durability for their intended use and that accordingly you have no basis for a claim against us in this instance.
    I regret that I cannot be of any further assistance in this matter.”

    So, any advice on how one forces the issue with barratts and get them to take responsibility for the dead washing machine?

    Regards

    Bob

  7. Mr Dobalina: Thanks for sharing your experience. You have found the same attitude that most people find, which is basically intransigence. Many companies appear to totally disagree with this aspect of the sale of goods act and don’t see why they should be liable. I do have some sympathy with them on that. It must be a real pain to be expected to be liable for something you sold (and possibly made just a small profit on) over 2 years or more ago when it not remotely your fault that it’s now scrap because you didn’t make it. But the government has made them responsible so they have to deal with it.

    In theory this obligation should improve the quality of products as retailers realise it’s more trouble than it’s worth to sell products that don’t last a fair time. The government presumably think that retailers should take responsibility for the quality of the products they sell us to make profit. At the end of the day if a product is rubbish it’s totally the fault of the manufacturer but we didn’t buy it from the manufacturer we bought it from a retailer who profited from selling it to us and we bought it from them in good faith expecting it to do what it’s supposed to and last a reasonable amount of time. They seem to forget it’s also designed to protect every one of them and their families too when they end up with an expensive product that is scrap after only a few years.

    They are right in that products are not expected to never break down within the 6 years (5 in Scotland) or even necessarily last 6 years, it depends on what product it is, how much it cost and how it has been used. This is also pointed out in my article. The sale of goods act implicitly says it must be fit for its purpose and must last a reasonable time when taking all the cost/usage into consideration. The stumbling block is that the word “reasonable” is totally subjective.

    Basically I don’t think 2 years and 4 months is anywhere near a reasonable time for a major white goods appliance to last before it needs throwing on the rubbish tip helping to destroy our environment and having to be replaced. If the replacement lasted a similarly short time then accepting that as OK means people are potentially expected to scrap a large appliance and buy a new one every two or three years for the rest of their lives, which is totally unnaceptable on any level.

    Clearly you also agree it hasn’t lasted a reasonable time, but the problem is that many companies (the majority I fear) simply refuse to take the hit for it and defiantly reject the customer’s consumer rights. If companies sell rubbish products and have to recompense customers when they don’t last a reasonable time they would have to start selling better quality products, but they currently get away with ignoring the sale of goods act so much that it hardly affects them.

    Very few people will stick to their guns and refuse to accept that they have no claim. This, coupled with the fact they are in no way guaranteed to win a claim probably puts off 99% of people with a valid claim. Consumer rights are troublesome to enforce if the company refuses to do anything because you have no option but to take them to the small claims court. Most people can’t be bothered so companies know they are safe enough just digging their heels in.

    Ultimately no one can tell you with certainty that a small claims court judge would agree with you that 2 years 4 months is an unreasonably short time so there’s no guarantee you would win. However, the entire point of the small claims court is to assist the public in fighting big intransigent companies and redress the balance a little. The entire procedure should be fairly straight forward, relatively cheap, with little financial risk and can even be done online.

    If you did win the case though they can take off the amount of time you have had use of the washing machine so if the average life of a washing machine is (tragically) only about 7 years these days then if you’ve had 2 years 4 months use you’ve had roughly just over 30% of the life of one so in theory should be entitled to a refund of around 70%.

    Ultimately only the stubborn and highly principled are likely to pursue this sort of thing although simply informing them you have taken steps to make a small claim in the courts and maybe sending them the link (below) could persuade them to offer something…

    My opinion is not official. I’m not qualified in consumer issues. I have merely made it my business to study consumer issues and law as part of my job and as part of my free advice on this blog and Washerhelp.co.uk. For official help please try –

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  8. my dishwasher has being playing up and had a quote to fix it £140 but its guarantee has run out 4 month sago so i throw out my receipt have i got any chance of getting anything back from the retailer

  9. You don’t need a receipt, only some proof of purchase such as a credit or bank card statement, though not having a receipt further complicates an already difficult matter. If the guarantee ran out 4 months ago the retailer and manufacturer are unlikely to help. They will both tell you that it is now out of guarantee and all repairs are chargeable.

    If you believe the appliance has not lasted a reasonable time you can pursue the retailer using the Sale of Good Act but they will fight it. Use the links in my last comment to try and get assistance.

  10. Elaine Alexander

    I have a Hotpoint Ultima WMD960P washing machine purchased in late December 2009. The rubber seal is decidedly manky – black gloop build up in the folds of the rubber. Rang and reported the problem – but told it is out of its 1 year warranty. I pointed out that the machine was less than 2 years old, and I had nevery had such a problem with previous Hotpoint washers. Operator said manufacturer was aware of the problem. She told this is a new fault, caused by detergents being made stronger, etc, and to the cold fill of machines. She said I could buy a crystal cleaner and use monthly, at a cost of £24.99 for a 2 year supply. The cost of replacing the dodgy rubber seal is £104.99 for an engineer to come out and replace it. In other words, the manufacturer knows there is a problem but has apparently not been able to resolve it. I keep my machine clean, flushing it out regularly. Now being told it must be done on a HOT 90 degree cycle. So much for economy! I ought this machine through the Benefits Scheme of my former employer (Hotpoint being part of the group). The operator on the phone told me it is a maintenance fault, not a manufacturers fault! Any idea where I stand on this one?

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