If your fridge-freezer has developed a fault where the freezer has defrosted, or is not getting cold enough and it’s in a garage, and the temperature is very cold, it could just be that it isn’t suitable for putting in a garage..
.. A surprising number of fridge-freezers in the UK end up in a garage or in an outbuilding. However, did you know that many are not capable of running properly if the temperature surrounding the appliance drops too low?
When winter comes, many people find that their freezer starts to defrost. However, it’s also possible for unrelated faults to cause the freezer part of a fridge freezer to defrost or not get cold enough, so don’t automatically assume the cause is as described in this article
All refrigeration has what’s called a climate class rating, which states the minimum and maximum temperature the appliance is designed to work within. I believe the overwhelming majority of consumers have never heard of climate class so surely its the responsibility of retailers to advise customers about it when selling refrigeration?
Which fridge freezers can defrost in a garage?
It’s combined fridge-freezers. If a combined fridge freezer has only one thermostat (or sensor), which is sited inside the fridge section, it is likely to be affected by this problem. If the ambient temperature of the room it’s placed in gets to around freezing, then the fridge thermostat is likely to shut off. When this happens on appliances with only one thermostat the freezer also shuts off. If the temperature remains cold for several hours then the fridge thermostat will not come back on.
It doesn’t need to because inside the fridge compartment will be plenty cold enough. In really cold weather it is possible for the fridge thermostat to stay off for a long time. Whilst ever the thermostat for the fridge remains off the compressor will stop running and the freezer will eventually start to warm up, at least to roughly the ambient temperature of the garage, which although cold, is not cold enough for frozen food.
As a rule of thumb I would say that if you can set separate temperatures for your fridge and the freezer section I would assume there are separate thermostats controlling the freezer and therefore this issue shouldn’t affect your appliance. (Article continues below..)
What about chest freezers?
Chest freezers should not suffer from this specific issue because they have their own thermostatic control and do not try to control the temperature of two separate compartments. However, if the temperature in the garage significantly exceeds that of its climate class it can’t be guaranteed to work without any issues. Also, if there is little ventilation and or condensation it can cause premature rust and even damage to components inside. I have seen many chest freezers in garages over the years that seem to fair reasonably ok although modern ones may not be so well built.
Is this a bad design? – Problems below 10 degrees?
Manufacturers would say they design them to be installed in a kitchen. However, to me it does seem less than ideal to rely on only one sensor or stat to control two different parts of the appliance (just to save money). Many fridge freezers do have separate stats. As saving money is the only possible advantage I can think of it’s therefore presumably more likely to affect the cheaper range of fridge freezers.
Also, there are reports that many refrigeration appliances are not guaranteed to work properly if temperatures drop below 10 degrees centigrade. I would imagine many people have appliances in parts of their homes and even in some kitchens where the temperature can drop below 10 degrees during the night or – what about when on holiday in the winter when the heating may be left off or on low enough only to prevent freezing?
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If an appliance is installed in a kitchen and temperature drops during the night or holiday periods cause it problems I would say that’s a design issue. You cannot be expected to keep the heating on 24/7 to keep an appliance running. However, if installed in an out building or garage I would think you have much less of a claim other than why weren’t you asked at the point of sale where you would be installing the appliance?
What can be done about it?
A fridge freezer with only one thermostat operating inside the fridge compartment is not suitable to run in a particularly cold environments. If affected you need to either exchange it for a fridge freezer with two thermostats controlling the fridge and freezer independently, or swap it for a separate fridge and freezer, or you need to somehow stop the environment from getting below 4 °C (which is likely to be impractical).
Do I have any comeback if my fridge freezer doesn’t work in my garage?
The short answer is probably not, at least not with the manufacturer, you have placed it in an environment it is not designed for. If it was me I might be annoyed though that the person I bought it from did not enquire as to whether I intended to place it in a garage or not. I would argue this problem is in no way common public knowledge, but most retailers are well aware of it because they get called out to them all the time.
All manufacturers and aftersales engineers also know about this issue because they too get called out lots of times under guarantee and have to tell the customer there’s no “fault” on the appliance and it’s not covered under guarantee. Some might say it’s the responsibility of the shop you bought it from to advise at the point of sale that it is not suitable for fitting in a garage or other outbuilding because the companies (not necessarily individual sales staff) know that so many people place them there. I don’t know whether trading standards would agree or not.
At one time, Comet, one of the largest UK retailers of such appliances carried out a survey where they found that around 15% of call outs to fridge freezers were caused by them being placed incorrectly in a garage or another building subject to very cold temperatures. This being the case, I would have thought it common sense for all their sales staff to be instructed to ask any customer buying such a fridge freezer where they intended to site it but they never were.
This is not only in the customer’s interest but in the interest of the retailer as any customer affected by this problem is likely to be pretty upset about it. At the end of the day it’s unlikely that any retailer is legally obliged to check on these matters but personally I believe they should because it’s very common for people to site fridge freezers in their garage and they should know that.
If affected, is my appliance damaged, or will it recover if moved to somewhere warmer?
If the freezer is defrosting due to the room being so cold it switches off the thermostat inside the fridge – and the fridge freezer is only controlled with one thermostat in the fridge (no stat or sensor in the freezer) then no damage should be inflicted. The freezer has only stopped working because the fridge stat has stopped working. Once temperatures increase it should work normally again. However, make sure you don’t wrongly assume this is the cause of a defrosting freezer as of course faults can occur causing freezers to stop working too.
Could a fridge-freezer start to defrost in a kitchen during winter months if the heating isn’t on?
This question has been asked a few times and I am presuming yes, there could be a problem if you have a fridge-freezer with only one thermostat controlling both the fridge and freezer and you go away on holiday when its cold. I’m not sure how most people do it, but normally when we go away we leave the heating off but we’ve never gone away in winter. If you went away and didn’t leave the heating on low (say around 14 – 15 degrees) then potentially during prolonged cold periods if the ambient temperature in the kitchen drops low enough (around 0 – 4 degrees C or colder) the fridge thermostat or sensor is likely to shut off as the temperature in the fridge becomes cool enough.
This won’t be an issue for the contents of the fridge because of course it’s reached the correct temperature. But if the freezer compartment is also controlled by the stat inside the fridge then this will stop the freezer coming on too. Therefore if the temperature remained cold enough to not require further cooling inside the fridge compartment then freezer compartment will not get any further cooling and after sufficient time has passed will start to thaw out.
The chances are if this did occur then unless you have an appliance with a warning light or sound to indicate the temperature of the freezer has warmed up enough to adversely affect the quality of the frozen food you might not realise the food has partially defrosted compromising its quality.
My advice would be that if you think you could be affected then if any food inside the freezers seems a little off when you thaw it out to use then throw it away. If you do have a fridge freezer that sounds or displays a warning if the temperature has been compromised you should assume the food has been partially defrosted even if it is rock solid when you come back.
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Andy A quick blast of hot air would only get it running again for a few hours until the temperature caused the fault to re-occur. You would have to keep warming it up every few hours 24/7 and it would play havoc with the fridge contents which would be unable to be kept at a constant few degrees required.
Washerhelp: As i said ,”For a quick fix” and it’s still running after just the 1 blast, 24hrs later and freezer contents are now frozen solid. I’ve had to resort to this to save over £200 of frozen food going off. I understand it’s not a “repair” as such, but the desired effect was achieved with minimal fuss and no degradation of fridge contents.
We’ve just had this problem with our Indesit fridge freezer which is situated indoors, but in our utility area. This is connected to the porch, and therefore cold in winter. The temperature has obviously been below 10C in there for a while but we’ve not noticed a problem until the last two days when the temperature has really dropped outside to below freezing with the snow.
We can do without the fridge if necessary while the weather is this cold as we have a separate fridge in our kitchen. Therefore, if we adjust the temperature in the fridge by either turning it right up or right down, will this compensate and get the freezer compartment working again?
Andy: Yes it would be a good way of firing up the freezer. If the temperature remained as cold it should go off again but as an emergency method of getting the freezer running again to save food from totally defrosting it’s a good idea.
Fiona: The lower you set the fridge temperature the better but if the ambient temperature is low enough the fridge will just not come on at all. I have a fridge in my garage, and at times the temperature in there is freezing or often around 3 – 5 degrees in cold weather. This means the fridge may often just not need to be on or only for short periods. If it was a fridge-freezer with only the one sensor controlling both fridge and freezer I would be in trouble but although I also have two freezers in there they have their own controls and as far as I’m aware work perfectly OK.
Thanks – we turned the fridge to its coldest setting last night and the food in the freezer is still hard this morning. We just needed a short-term fix until our other freezer has room in it to take the food from the freezer compartment of the fridge-freezer (which thankfully is only two shelves.) Now that we know about this issue with this type of fridge-freezer we will make sure that in future we don’t use its freezer compartment when we know the weather is going to get really cold. It is amazing though to find this website and see just how many people are affected by this – and how this problem still isn’t a well known fact with the wider public. It’s a shame the BBC or someone doesn’t do a Panorama programme or similar on this!
My Electrolux Fridge Freezer ER7626B is located inside the house in a utlity room that does not drop below 15C. My problem just started today, the fridge and freezer are getting too cold, i.e. 1C and -30C respectively, and even if I turn the single temperature regulator inside the fridge to setting number 1 or 2 ( 6 being coldest) the compressor just keeps running. I’ve resorted to turning the appliance off and on at the plug in order to stop the temperatures dropping lower and keeping them to design temperature range. Does this ‘overcooling’ problem suggest a thermostat replacement is needed or is it indicative of something else e.g. a complete defrost needed?
Just a quickie – I too had the ‘garage’ experience with my Electrolux ER7626B fridge freezer before I moved it into the newly built utility room about 18 months ago. Whilst it was in the garage every time the ambient temperature fell below 10C I had to keep it nice and warm with a big cardboard box surround and a 2kw heater at the back just to make the compressor come on – my work colleagues thought I was joking when I told them!
I used this forum when I had problems 2 years ago and discovered then that Beko were the only company to claim their appliance would function in a garage environment. Unfortunately the Beko fridge freezer i bought then has now died. It would cost more to repair the broken compressor than buy a new identical appliance, the throw away society we live in I guess. Here’s hoping I have better luck this time around! I
Hi Eileen
please forgive the question …. only two years in service ? ….. I thought Beko gave two years as a default, is the fridge freezer out of guarantee ?
Terry, Beko warranty is only 12 months so sadly we had no comeback with them. We did contact them to check, explained the situation in the hope of some flexibility but nothing doing! It grieved me to buy another Beko but since it is the only one which promises to work in a garage it was either that or remodel my kitchen to accommodate a fridge freezer!