Adam: Unfortunately, I feel you are being slightly more personal than anyone else, so to be honest I did start to write something, but out of respect for Washerhelp’s exemplary moderation I will just cease and desist. We are only discussing machines after all ….. Thanks.

“I completely disagree with much of this article and most of the comments” was not the best way of joining in a discussion :)

Point taken….. :)

As I pointed out in my previous comment people usually arrive at certain points of view in reaction to personal experiences and Traxxion’s comment, “my premium brand Sony only lasted 3 years” appears to confirm one of the reasons for Traxxion’s feelings.

I do actually agree with some of the points, especially regarding the extremely high cost of Miele spares (which I’ve been very critical of in another article and comments).

I welcome all points of view and have no wish to run a discussion where people are unable to express a differing point of view without being jumped on but maybe the opening phrase, “I completely disagree with much of this article and most of the comments” was not the best way of joining in a discussion :)

‘Washerhelp: OK, its really obvious how differently we see things.’

It is, and i have to say, I agree with him. He is an engineer after all, what does he know?!

I find it interesting that you used BMW as an example. There we have the same issue – is a BMW worth the premium? The answer if you know anything about cars is NO. The logic that BMW’s are made in Germany therefore they are better than X (although FIAT I will grant you *shudder* ….) is flawed. BMW’s are waaaay overrated and overpriced. They are not quality vehicles.

Have you ever been to Germany? After a recent trip to Berlin, 99% of cars I saw driven were BMW, Audi, Mercedes or VW. I will rather believe that the Germans do favour their quality vehicles as opposed to anything else. I doubt very much that the Germans are wrong, they insist on quality.

‘How anyone can look at Which charts, see a 2% difference in machine reliability between Beko and Miele, then hand over an extra £400 quid or so is beyond me, but it is your money and everyone is free to do as they please. Personally I would rather plump for an underdog any day of the week if it there is even a chance of getting the same/similar service life and more features. Its back to the basic Miele costing more than the highend Hotpoint. Erm… I think I’ll take the Hotpoint thanks very much, skip the warranty and take my chances….!? To me it is a no brainer. I don’t think this makes me a ‘stupid’ consumer – quite the opposite actually.’

Hmm, Im not saying anything. But in my previous post, I describe Hotpoint machines as a waste of space, poorly built and don’t wash at all well, and thats an old one, I hate to imagine what the newer ones are like…

‘I just bought a Beko fridge freezer today – it can operate at – 15 degrees C, unlike other fridge freezers on the market and is well designed in other respects too. The Hotpoint FF has given up after about 8 years (not too bad). Longevity of the Beko – I guess we will see, but my old Beko TV gave good service and again, the picture was better than an equivalent Sony costing twice as much. Interesting to note that my premium brand Sony only lasted 3 years. ‘

Again, good luck with that….

I have a Miele vacuum cleaner which has been pretty good. Again, it is pretty basic compared to a Dyson, or even an LG. I don’t rate the Miele higher than LG to be honest, since the LG didn’t break either and had the benefit of being bagless and not losing suction, but the Miele does work well enough.’

Again, back to the previous post. You seem to have been brainwashed that bagless is better, when it at all isn’t. ‘Loss of suction’ is a load of bunkum, James Dyson would have us to believe…

‘I also, was the person who replaced the pump for my mother-in-law and the inside of the washing machine looked like something from the 80′s!’

Like we have been telling you, Miele have not changed their design or construction because it works! Why change something when it already works well for you?!